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WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

One of the major changes mentioned in yesterday's release announcement for the Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn Beta was "excellent wireless networking support". As I haven't yet blogged about the 802.11abg WiFi support in Feisty Fawn nor has it been covered on Phoronix, I decided to talk about it now with the Feisty Fawn beta release. For today's purposes I had loaded up Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn beta on a Lenovo ThinkPad T60, which has an integrated Intel 3945 wireless connection. I also had inserted a NetGear PCMCIA card, which at heart is an Atheros 802.11g Chipset.

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Immediately upon booting Ubuntu I was made aware that in the Ubuntu Restricted Drivers Manager were two drivers enabled and turned on by default. The drivers were named Atheros Hardware Access Layer (HAL) and Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver for Linux. With the "blob manager" automatically loading these two drivers, both wireless interfaces were activated "out of the box". Network Manager was also loaded by default, which connected to an open Phoronix wireless connection right away.

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One of the essential features for Feisty Fawn was network-roaming support, which did make the deadline for inclusion. The objective of Ubuntu's network-roaming is to automatically connect/disconnect to and from various dynamically configured networks and ultimately providing a better user experience when connecting to these networks. You can enable roaming mode for a wireless interface through Network Settings (System > Administration > Network).

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For technical reference, the specific Chipset from Atheros I used was the AR5212 802.11abg NIC and was revision 01. The Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG was revision 02. To briefly sum up everything I had tried with the wireless networking support in Feisty Fawn, I was extremely pleased by what I had seen. Both the Atheros AR25212 and Intel 3945ABG wireless interfaces had worked immediately upon booting Ubuntu Feisty Fawn through the Restricted Drivers Manager and managing the wireless connections through NetworkManager. There was no installing extra packages or dealing with any firmware or any configuration files. For new users, the networking support found in Feisty Fawn is a godsend. I haven't tried any Broadcom 802.11g WiFi chips with Feisty Fawn, but most of those (if not all) should work as well. Fedora 7 is also supposed to have rock solid wireless support. However, at this point the wireless support in Fedora 7 doesn't look as promising as Ubuntu's due to the tighter free standards with Fedora when it comes to binary blobs and firmware.

Posted on March 24, 2007 at 09:26 AM in Linux

Tags: Ubuntu, Feisty Fawn, 802.11g, WiFi
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WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Easy setup of wireless devices in Ubuntu is a very important thing, and it is wonderful that the developers are seeing that. I am a member of the Ubuntu Linux project and it makes me proud to see such wonderful strides being made towards making Ubuntu fit for the "average Joe (or Jane)".

Posted by zenwhen on March 25, 2007 at 09:17 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

There are just no two ways about it - wireless is the current achilles heel of Linux.

These configuration systems are awful - there is no way to easily configure different profiles for work and home, and the types of wireless are too few - for example WPA or a simple passwordless setup.

Posted by Mark on March 25, 2007 at 10:11 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have the Broadcom 4318 and Feisty Fawn took care of the driver install for me, it was great!

Posted by Steven A Katra, Jr. on March 25, 2007 at 10:22 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Does Fiesty Fawn support WPA. Earlier Ubuntu versions, I could not get WPA (Only WEP) to work with my Linksys WPA router without jumping thru tons of hoops..........

Posted by azzman on March 25, 2007 at 10:40 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

After two days setting my ra0 I did managed it for getting up after boot. But it drops down one or two minutes after. My card chipset is Ralink. Ubuntu wireless has been a nightmare for me.

Posted by Arko on March 25, 2007 at 10:41 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Feisty Fawn does also include a Location based network settings system

Posted by Anonymous on March 25, 2007 at 10:42 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

This is fantastic news. I couldn't get the previous version of Ubuntu to recognize even the most common of my wireless cards, and that's what caused me to uninstall it (a laptop without internet access is about as good as a paperweight). I'm definitely going to install Feisty Fawn after reading this.

Posted by Alfonso Surroca on March 25, 2007 at 10:50 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

All I can say is _thank God_! Upon my introduction to ubuntu I had to compile ndiswrapper. This was no way to begin using linux (I had never heard of linux headers before). It seems like the ubuntu team may have gotten the message. Well, here's hoping.

Posted by Anon on March 25, 2007 at 11:02 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I also have a T60 with feisty on it. Yes, it works great, Ubuntu really surprises me with a lot of its features (I've run linux since the slackware days). It's also great how they do include the proprietary crap instead of making you jump through hoops. However, I will just gripe that ipw3945 crashes on me randomly. The system stays up, but the network dies. This is usually when I'm watching porn (pulling heavy traffic through a sshfs), which is doubly annoying. I've no doubt that if this was an open source driver, this would not be happening, due to the much quicker development feedback cycle. I'm sure I could at least take the output of dmesg and send it in as a bug or something, but really, these proprietary wireless driver guys have failed to fix bug #1 - provide an open driver!! This bullshit about 'ooooh peoeple could modify the code and transmit at 10 watts of power, and we're scared of the FCC' has got to stop. The 2nd amendment, sony v betamax, et al have shown that just because something can be used for an illegal purpose does not rule out that item itself. I wish chipset manufacturers would finally come around and realize theres nothing novel in their hardware APIs, and that releasing datasheets would make their lives a lot easier.

Posted by anon on March 25, 2007 at 02:55 PM

WPA in Feisty

YE Feisty doe have WPA Support now. Perfectly seamless WPA support. just click the network from the dropdown list and enter the password when you're prompted. this is a godsend as my school uses WPA Encryption and I've struggled with it for months with other distros. this is the first time I've ever connected to WPA under linux. W00t!

Posted by Andre on March 25, 2007 at 04:51 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I'm glad that restricted drivers works good for you.

In my case, I did bought a PCI wireless card with an open source driver for it (ralink chipset).

It was not as easy to install with Dapper (I had to download and compile the kernel module) but at least it worked flawlessly with that old ubuntu.

Now Feisty is here, with better wireless support and the kernel module already built-in.

But to my deception, it is incompatible with the kernel provided.

Result: Random system freeze. Stupid !

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/94944

Note: this is a bug in the amd64 version of Ubuntu 7.04 BETA! I did not test the i386 version yet. And Do not forget, this is not a final product and does not reflect in any way the value or stability of the final product.

Sorry for disturbing.

Posted by Gianni on March 25, 2007 at 06:52 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Feisty beta did not start on my dell inspiron 6400 with ati x1400, X crashed

Posted by Io Mihai on March 26, 2007 at 11:22 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

dont use ATI cards on LInux Nvidia or Intel

Posted by Arran on March 27, 2007 at 04:36 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have been able to get my ralink to come up and work, but I have to manually change the interface through the admin panel each time I move to a new network. the network manager applet is just not able to do that for me. Anyone make any progress on this?

Posted by Josh Smith on April 4, 2007 at 12:49 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have a network card that uses the Marvell 8835 Libertas chipset... I can't get it working. From all the symptoms, support for my card is still in the Dapper and Edgy age...

Posted by Albert Au on April 7, 2007 at 12:02 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

the wireless in feisty is broken for me, it recognises my wireless card and detects all the networks but wont connect to them. How stupid is this!

Posted by Frederik deWijs on April 12, 2007 at 06:41 AM

WPA intel 3945

Have anyone succeeded with connecting thru intel 3945 using wpa encryption? it doesn't work for me. it tries several times and ends with no luck

Posted by Miem on April 20, 2007 at 12:04 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have a Compaq nw8440 and I have to enable wireles from within XP to have the hardware Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Card turned on, then boot Ubuntu 7.04 will 'see' the wireless nic. That's silly. Why the hell does it do this?
email me if you have an answer because I can't seem to find one:
digitalghost1@yahoo.com

Posted by robert on April 22, 2007 at 02:42 PM

WEP In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

For me, the roaming mode is able to connect to unsecured networks only. No luck with WEP, just keeps asking for password. But, manually it's OK.

Posted by someguy on April 23, 2007 at 08:53 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I've got a Dell XPS m1210 in which I selected the Intel 3945 wireless card. I'll say that Feisty (both i386 and AMD64 versions, and both Beta and release versions) found and installed the ipw3945 driver. With that out-of-box setup, I can connect only to open APs or ones with WEP.

I've hunted high and low for a solution to this but have found nothing until yesterday. I stumbled upon the following thread that talks about how to configure WPA in Dapper:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179643&page=3

Lots of hoops, lots of trial-and-error, and definitely not for newbies.

I'm a recent convert to Ubuntu (from Windows), so I'm still getting my 'linux legs'. However, the lack of easily configurable options in the Network Manager - especially for wireless and WPA - concerns me greatly. If I knew more about programming for Linux, I'd definitely do something about it. Maybe I'll be better at it in a year or two...

Posted by Todd Lynch on April 24, 2007 at 07:28 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I was a long time Fedora user. Horrible wireless support in FC 5 and 6 drove me away. I could not get anything working even after fiddling with ndiswarpper for hours. I bought a couple different cards, could never get them working. They worked "out of the box" in both Ububtu 6.10 and 7.04. Excellent job guys. Keep up the work.

Posted by D.Crowder on April 28, 2007 at 10:18 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Hello Guys!
I've a Dell Latitude D520 with an Intel ipw3945 wireless card. I had a dual boot with W-XP Pro and Ubuntu 6.10 (Dapper). However, I heard a lot of great thing from my colleagues running 7.04 (Ubbuntu and Kubuntu Feisty). I immediatly performed an upgrade. I felt much better with the new version except for: a) the lack of space with so much unnecessary trash of 2 other prvious kernels and b) my wireless card was not working any more.
Then I did what was recommended first: Reinstall it from mark 0. I formated the / partition. I did not use anything from my W-XP configuration (I wish I had this during my migration to Ubuntu first time). I got surprise by the fact it preserved a lot of 6.10 Desktop configuration!!!
On the other hand, my wireless ipw3945 card is still not working.
So far, I tried to use wireless under WEP configurations in 2 different sites.
Before reinstalling it, by activating wireless connection to one or the other network, it shows 2 grey dots and the "I'm doing something" spinning graphic progress solution. After a while, like 10-15 seconds, one of them gets green. Later nothing happens.
After reinstalling Ubuntu 7.04, it is even worse.
I believe it will be great, but for now it is just not working...
So sorry.
Dow anyone have any idea? I'm considering to drop criptography and try it under open Access Point and restrict access by the MAC address only.
Please, does anyone have any idea???
Thanks.
Bernardo

Posted by Bernardo Ramos on April 29, 2007 at 11:53 AM

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Feisty not only breaks on install with my ATI Radeon x1400 (Dell Inspiron 6400) but once it is installed, WPA doesn't work inside NetworkManager like Ubuntu claims.

Where's the 'just works' philosophy? I'd use Linux seriously if I didn't have to muck about with config files when I want to connect to the internet.

And moving between networks? Forget about it.

Posted by Brandon Keene on April 30, 2007 at 12:21 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

There seems to be a common problem of getting WPA working in feisty fawn. I'm am a new user of ubuntu, and read that the problem might be my drivers for the intel 2915 not supporting WPA - this is incorrect. I discovered, all I needed was to set the wireless networking back to 'roaming mode', then click on the signal strength meter in the notification area (top right corner of the screen) and create a new wireless connection. From here I could select WPA-TKIP, whereas the network manager gui only offers WEP based security.

Posted by Rob 1 on May 2, 2007 at 07:24 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Oh, yeah, I also had to go to the keyring manager and set up a new keyring called 'default' first, so that it would actually remember the password and save it somewhere!

hope this helps.

Posted by Rob 1 on May 2, 2007 at 07:56 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I installed the desktop version(beta) via a image CD. Then I installed the system, I did not insert the wireless card. After the installation, I put the wireless card in and booted the machine, The wireless worked: I found my router, I configured it and then I was able to connect to my WPA enabled router. Last month, I run the update, and from then on, I can not connect to my router any more. It does not support the WPA. any idea?

Posted by vin ang on May 4, 2007 at 07:48 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have an HP Pavilion 9210 (AMD Turion 64X2) which is a dual boot Vista and Ubuntu. When Feisty Fawn was first installed wireless using the internal bcm43xx worked perfectly. Several weeks later after allowing an update it ceased to operate and nothing I try will repair it. I can "see" the neighbors wireless essid's but cannot access them. In addition, I can no longer access my own router or make ANY network connection. The wired LAN works fine as always. Hope someone smarter than I can soon get this fixed. Otherwise Feisty is working very well and is a noteworthy improvement ovet previous versions. Thanks in advance, Harry Wert - Physicist

Posted by Harry Wert on May 27, 2007 at 08:34 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

@Harry Wert:
some of us who have the same problem as you do have been writing on this ubuntu forum:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2752526#post2752526

check it out, and maybe you can post something there as well - hopefully some ubuntu developer will answer.
thanks.

Posted by woohoo on May 31, 2007 at 08:58 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have a Dell Latitude D820 w/ 8295 internal wireless. I followed all the wpa_supplicant directions to no avail, then I read where the smart person before me turned roaming back on and allowed the system to find the network.

That worked, sort of, in that it showed connected, but did nothing. The indicator showed full strength.

I removed all wpa_supplicant references, rebooted, and tried again. Same.

Then it occurred to me that I was using static addresses on my network, so I turned on the router's DHCP server and BOOM - I was asked for the passphrase and was connected.

Bravo on the functionality, Ubuntu!
Not so bravo on the docs.


Now all I have to do is get rid of the Redmond Menace on the other partition and I'm good!

Posted by leftystrat on June 5, 2007 at 11:14 PM

WEP In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have the same experience, any secured wireless connection fails to connect eventhough feisty roams the network very well. Unsecured ones work, though.
Does anyone know the solution?

Posted by newuser on July 3, 2007 at 09:45 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

well ive just confirmed that i 100% have feisty fawn. it didnt support wpa out of the box. the latest download didnt work either, ie today downloaded. have spent 2 weeks on this version trying to get it work trying all sorts of things and failed. no wpa support what so ever. so how am i getting on the internet. well im just using internet connection sharing and using my windows vista box to get the wpa access. pretty sad ive got linux being connected by a stable vista box. oh and yes the vista box has been up for 6 months now non stop and still running. still wanna get wpa working tho. ITS FAR from easy.

Posted by disrupta on July 5, 2007 at 08:19 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have the same problem as someone else on this page.
My ralink card is detected, installed and can see my network. I connect and it asks for the wep key and thats it...nothing. the router logs show something happened, but it can't connect.
I've spent 5 days trying to get this working.

the really annoying thing is that the card worked very well with edgy. Also I had exactly the same problem with my laptop but managed to sort it I just wish I could remember how!

Posted by pete stanton on July 26, 2007 at 02:35 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have the same problem, why is that? and could you fix it? how?.. thanks!

Posted by Ivonne on August 12, 2007 at 05:44 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have a ralink based card. I got it working with WPA the same way as I did in Edgy - by editting the file /etc/network/interfaces :

iface ra0 inet static
address 192.168.1.3
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
pre-up iwconfig ra0 essid ACCESS_POINT_NAME
pre-up iwconfig ra0 mode managed
pre-up iwpriv ra0 set AuthMode=WPAPSK
pre-up iwpriv ra0 set EncrypType=TKIP
#pre-up iwpriv ra0 set EncrypType=AES
pre-up iwpriv ra0 set WPAPSK="PASSPHRASE"
auto ra0

Edit the ip address, ACCESS_POINT_NAME and PASSPHRASE to match your own of course.

I could not find anything to do with WPA in any of the graphical tools, just WEP - which is not good seeing as nobody should be using WEP these days.

The card does seem to freeze a couple of times a day though, and I have to do ifdown ra0; ifup ra0 to get it to work again.

Posted by costas on August 14, 2007 at 09:59 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Ubunty 7.04 on IBM T23 with Atheros Wi-Fi. Everything works, including WEP and WPA (tested both). Hence I even have nice GUI gadgets for the Thinpad keys.

Posted by Nicko on September 12, 2007 at 11:49 AM

7.04 has pitiful wireless support

WEP and WPA do not work out of the box in Ubuntu 7.04. The claim is simply false.

Further, since my card (a Netgear WG511T with an Atheros AR5212 chipset) *did* work straight away in Breezy, from my point of view the wireless support has actually regressed.

So way to go Ubuntu.

Posted by Andrew on September 16, 2007 at 07:28 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

great work - lost you a few times but got there

Posted by David on September 18, 2007 at 10:53 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I am new to Ubuntu... really working hard to get off the MS OS drug... SNAG - Feisty Wireless is not working for me with Belkin model F5D8010 wireless card. I am trying... hitting all the websites... I dont get the drop down menu as described and I dont have an option to choose a wireless network for some reason. Anyway, I have been telling folks about Ubuntu and I have been happy to have it finally installed, but I cannot sell anyone on this if I cannot get them wireless... as well myself.

Posted by Greg on September 28, 2007 at 10:59 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I am new to Ubuntu... really working hard to get off the MS OS drug... SNAG - Feisty Wireless is not working for me with Belkin model F5D8010 wireless card. I am trying... hitting all the websites... I dont get the drop down menu as described and I dont have an option to choose a wireless network for some reason. Anyway, I have been telling folks about Ubuntu and I have been happy to have it finally installed, but I cannot sell anyone on this if I cannot get them wireless... as well myself.

Posted by Greg on September 28, 2007 at 10:59 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I tested Ubuntu Feisty Fawn via the Wubi project and wirelss worked out of the box. My centrino based laptop connected immediately. I use WPA with my old DLINK DI-624 router with no issues. I guess it all depends on the hardware.

Posted by David Gerbino on October 14, 2007 at 12:25 AM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Um.. I had the same problems with WPA. I tried the roaming option. Once I found my network, I would input my key, but it would not connect. But the roaming bars were still on, So I figure the computer was still trying, once I got to the bottom of this page, I looked at my ubuntu laptop to notice that I was connected! My solution for the problem was patience even though my computer told me that the connection wasn't going to happen.

Posted by Spencer on January 8, 2008 at 09:02 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I have just bought a Dell Inspiron 6400 with Ubuntu preloaded. Finally got the wireless card to connect by inputting my WEP key in the HEX format (thought it would be the other format since my key is just numbers!). Anyway everything works but thought there would be a power meter on the desk top to show signal strength. Is that correct?

Posted by RichardB on January 17, 2008 at 06:54 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Cracked it!

I installed this little package in synaptic and I can use WEP without a problem.

Network manager even shows me an accurate signal bar!

hostapd

It manages WEP and WPA for 802.11 wireless cards.
I found the solution here.

Thanks gstamp!

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75017


Let me know how it works for you!

Posted by Athianos on July 26, 2008 at 07:56 PM

WiFi In Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

I agree don't use ATI cards on LInux Nvidia or Intel.

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